I sought out Ian MacKenzie to have this conversation with me because I had become familiar with his work regarding gender and the sacred roles of men and women can embody, and I have come to recognize that the work he is doing is entirely necessary in this time of great calamity and confusion. More than ever, people are discussing gender identity and gender roles, sexuality and relationships, and what this all means for us as individuals and as a society. I felt ready to have this discussion, and Ian was gracious enough to accept my invitation and hash out these ideas with me, and I thank him for that.